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 Post subject: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:36 am 
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Hey everybody,

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this (I've had a read through the rules and I think this is correct), but my friend who's currently serving in the Australian Defense Force was recently picked up after a night out, back in his home state. He was pulled over in the morning on his way to McDonald's after a night out drinking and blew over the limit. I believe he's going to lose his license for 6 months and he's unsure about his future in the ADF.

The reason for me posting this (without my friends knowledge) is because I was hoping somebody might have some background knowledge on the process he will have to go through and any advice I can give to him to help him out. He's been absolutely devastated by the entire situation since the army has been his entire life for the past few years.

Any advice on the situation, if I'm posting in the wrong place or incorrectly would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :)

Josh


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:40 pm 
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Used to be an admin warning for 12 months, unsure if it is still the same.


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:30 pm 
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I believe it is now up to the CO now whether they want go down the formal warning route or some other form action.

That said, not being able to drive can effect the members job. They probably won't be able to deploy, and if there job requires them to drive then they could find themselves stuck with all the shit jobs.

Biggest thing is not try and hide it. Had a guy lose his licence, kept quiet about and still drove when he had to. Got caught speeding in a service vehicle and that's when the unit found out he had lost his licence. Did not end well for that man.


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:33 pm 
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oh that's a bad situation for your friend... I'm sorry for him. and I'm sorry that I can't really help with anything... just hope he learned his lesson and won't drink next time when driving... :drinkers: most importantly, I hope he would be accepted in army further because I have a feeling that if they won't he has chances of ending up like this :drinkers: daily... but that's not the worst part, the worst is that he can end up with ED and relying only on viagra super active for getting his buddy up or even worst: with liver cirrhosis...


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:11 pm 
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pjm wrote:
Used to be an admin warning for 12 months, unsure if it is still the same.


I believe it is also a show cause now as well.


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:46 pm 
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There's actually a policy document that came out in the last three years and it has ranks and low medium and high range offences. It talks about the administrative procedures reference what rank you are and what offence. If your a Sgt or above anything above low range is discharge I'm pretty sure.


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:42 pm 
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skull wrote:
pjm wrote:
Used to be an admin warning for 12 months, unsure if it is still the same.


I believe it is also a show cause now as well.


The last one I saw was a CPL who got a show cause (was more a threat than serious though) but copped every other DFDA charge they could think of too.

DUI is taken very seriously in army.


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:52 am 
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Biggest thing is not try and hide it. Had a guy lose his licence, kept quiet about and still drove when he had to. Got caught speeding in a service vehicle and that's when the unit found out he had lost his licence. Did not end well for that man.


Works out sometimes...


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:30 am 
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Then you get the cases where people have been done DUI and then score a deployment. I have seen this happen a couple of times.


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 Post subject: Re: The ADF and DUI's
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Thanks for the replies guys it all helps! I've passed on the info you guys have given me and he was really appreciative :)

Thanks again everybody.


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