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 Post subject: criminal record - legal issues
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:22 pm 
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2 years ago I was given an official warning for theft. That is, the police gave me a piece of paper saying that I broke the law, and if it happened again I would get charged/serve time (depending)/etc. Before I ask the question, I've heard all the "oh shit man, that was really stupid, why the hell would you do that?" before, so please, spare me.

My question is this:
I understand that the ADF takes such matters very seriously, however I was not charged for this offence, i lost my job, and received a warning. I was a minor at the time and since then I've held a job for a year and 3 months without incident. I am also a sports medic (requires a great deal of responsibility). How will I be judged for such a misdemeanor?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:41 pm 
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I think recruiting asks if you've been convicted, if you haven't then it probably won't be an issue.


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Don't you more or less get a 'clean slate' for small crimes committed as a youth after you turn 18.
Correct me if I'm wrong...cause I hear different stories.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:39 pm 
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Well that's the thing, i don't know either, because i don't break the law all that often, you know. I think the police officer said something about 'Once you turn 18 you should be fine, but if you break the law your screwed'.

Thing is, i'd normally neglect to disclose this information unless i had to. I attempted enlistment around this time last year and he said come back in a years time, but i mentioned the incident and he wasn't happy. It's a year later (almost, 26 days to go but who's counting?) and i COULD neglect to tell them about it but, the thing is, they already know.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:44 pm 
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Do you still have the written warning? If so does it have any information in it in terms of a contact number where you can call up and see what the deal is?


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Ah, good idea. Oh guess where i found it? My girlfriend put it in with my resume and certs. when she did a clean up. Wouldnt that have been handy.


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You could cough up the $30 odd dollars and get a police clearance, that would show what's on your record.


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so $30 and i get to see what i've been done for? It's just the one thing and DFR knows about it already, i just want to know if they will take seriously an incident of theft, with no conviction, no charges and the money was paid back.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:34 pm 
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Don't mention it. If they say, "Well here on your background check it says otherwise", just say that you thought that they were referring to a criminal record, and not a conviction. Good behaviour bonds (when you are classified as a minor) are supposedly wiped clear when you turn 18.

Hopefully they won't ask. However, in your case, you have previously told them, so no need to bring it up again. Either way, work your way around it and say that at the time you were 'young and impressionable' and have since 'grown up.' If they ask, 'how?', just politely ask them if you can show them how many more pubes you now have compared to at the time of stealing. If that doesn't prove that you have grown up then nothing will. :lol:

A minor conviction such as theft shouldn't really impede your application. Now stabbing someone would be a different story....


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Well this one time...


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