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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:49 pm 
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How legal is this bad boy....


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:22 pm 
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For those times when five minutes of sustained bolt action fire is all that will do? :stoked:

Please tell me that is a real modification. It is so stupid that it's actually kind of cool!


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:38 pm 
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Illegal in Queensland unless the owner has a Category D license.


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:19 pm 
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Yer mac it's the only way to teach those pesky emus, I found it whilst perving on the mossverg MVP but I assume it's an American mag just with size and overcompensation and what not, but the MVP takes a standard AR15 mag so I think the one in the picture must be compatible....perhaps?

So Qld does have a round limit is it 10+1? Cause there isn't much in the way of round limits in my state on the police website anyway but I think anything more than a 10+1 would be
a. Overkill and
b. Kind of illegal or require a cat d licence


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:08 pm 
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Yes in Queensland the magazines themselves are Category D restricted items once they hold more than 10 rounds. This regulation coincided with the arrival of the first Remington 7615s about 12 years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:19 pm 
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I personally love the American trend of using STANAG magazines for bolt action rifles.

It makes things easier for customization to suit an end-users tastes, and it gives a big finger to our weapons licensing branches as they over extend themselves trying to ban everything that looks remotely dangerous to a hand-wringing Nanny.

The sooner we can move to evidence based firearms legislation based on action types and intent rather than emotive feel-good hand-wringing, the better.


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:34 am 
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**update**
Ive been informed but vic licenseing, that if i give them proof of enlistment and new storage address, i keep my vic license even interstate, only thing is the other states are saying i need to apply everytime i become a resident in said state. Waiting to see what the say after ive told them about the info i recieved from vic. Sorry if its confusing to read


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:16 pm 
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I don't see how Victoria can give you the authority to possess a firearm in, say, Queensland, when you are a resident of Queensland. It would be up to the State you are living in to decide whether to allow the possession of firearms on a Victorian license. As you seem to be saying, the State you reside in will likely require you get a license from them.


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:59 pm 
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22F wrote:
I personally love the American trend of using STANAG magazines for bolt action rifles.

It makes things easier for customization to suit an end-users tastes, and it gives a big finger to our weapons licensing branches as they over extend themselves trying to ban everything that looks remotely dangerous to a hand-wringing Nanny.

The sooner we can move to evidence based firearms legislation based on action types and intent rather than emotive feel-good hand-wringing, the better.


Don't get me wrong mate I'd love to go shooting USA style with a AR and 30 round mag but I don't really need it
I mean I've been looking at getting a MVP flex and been looking in to mag round limits for centre fire bolt actions because I would like a big ass mag but the reality of me needing more than 1-3 rounds (I've either hit it or missed and it and his buddies are gone)are pretty slim

Also I am a simple chap what do you mean by an evidenced based legislation


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 Post subject: Re: Shooting License/civvie shooting/gunclubs/hunting
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:12 pm 
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Well mate,
There was a federal review of the NFA a couple of years ago, chaired by Penny Wong.

Every State police commissioner fronted the committee and said that gun crime involving licensed firearms owners was 2-3 percent of all gun crime.

My question is why then, are we expending so much on ineffective legislation?

The other issue:
The NFA is correctly based on action type: bolt, self loading, etc.

But the real clincher is a little clause the “military appearance” where something looks military means it’s more dangerous.

That is preposterous suggestion.
Place a bolt action SMLE .303 next to a Savage BA110 in a fancy chassis in .22-250.
One is actually a military weapon, with features to ensure ease of use against human targets in rough field conditions.
The other is just a hunting rifle dressed up.

The military appearance clause is equivalent to saying a Datsun 180Y is the same as a Ferrari Testarossa just because a body kit and a spoiler is stuck on with gaffer tape.

The Canadians used to have a similar gun registry as us.
They’ve actually gotten rid of a lot of the controls on rifles due to similar data. There simply isn’t the crime level with registered shooters using rifles.


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